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Complicated Women (2003)



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365076/



Directed by 

Hugh Munro Neely    

  

Writing credits

Andie Hicks   writer (as Andi Hicks) 

Hugh Munro Neely   writer 





Cast 

 Jane Fonda ...  Herself - Narrator (voice) 

 Frances Dee ...  Herself 

 Kitty Carlisle ...  Herself (interviewee) (as Kitty Carlisle Hart) 

 Molly Haskell ...  Herself (interviewee) 

 Mick LaSalle ...  Himself (interviewee) 

 Mae Madison ...  Herself (interviewee) 

 Karen Morley ...  Herself (interviewee) 

 Mark Vieira ...  Himself (interviewee) 

 Bo Derek ...  Herself 

 Virginia Madsen ...  Herself 

 Theresa Russell ...  Herself 

 Tallulah Bankhead ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Joan Blondell ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Joseph Breen ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 James Cagney ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Ruth Chatterton ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Claudette Colbert ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Ricardo Cortez ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Joan Crawford ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Bette Davis ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Dolores del Rio ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Marlene Dietrich ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Kay Francis ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Clark Gable ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Greta Garbo ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 John Gilbert ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Jean Harlow ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Will H. Hays ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Katharine Hepburn ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Miriam Hopkins ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Leslie Howard ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Myrna Loy ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Fredric March ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Robert Montgomery ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Chester Morris ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Maureen O'Sullivan ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Gene Raymond ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Ginger Rogers ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Norma Shearer ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Barbara Stanwyck ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Irving Thalberg ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Johnny Weissmuller ...  Himself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Mae West ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 

 Loretta Young ...  Herself (archive footage) (uncredited) 



Produced by 

Elaina Archer ....  co-producer (as Elaina B. Archer) 

Tom Brown ....  executive producer: Turner Classic Movies  

Catheryn Clarke ....  associate producer  

John J. Flynn ....  producer (as John Flynn) 

Andie Hicks ....  producer (as Andi Hicks) 

Mick LaSalle ....  associate producer  

Keith Lawrence ....  producer  

Diane MacIntyre ....  associate producer  

Hugh Munro Neely ....  producer  

Melissa Roller ....  supervising producer: Turner Classic Movies  

  

Original Music by 

Nigel Holton    

  

Cinematography by 

Harry Dawson   (director of photography)  

  

Film Editing by 

Andie Hicks   (as Andi Hicks) 

Hugh Munro Neely    

  

Casting by 

Scot Boland    

Victoria Burrows    

Darcy Hettrich    

  

Makeup Department 

Andie Hicks ....  makeup artist (as Andi Hicks) 

Michael Spezzano ....  makeup artist: Theresa Russell, Virginia Madsen, Bo Derek  

  

Production Management 

John Luker ....  production manager (as John C. Luker) 

  

Sound Department 

John Luker ....  sound (as John C. Luker II) 

Daniel Schaefer ....  voiceover recordist  

  

Visual Effects by 

Cory Fischer ....  photo shop and after effects  

Andie Hicks ....  Photoshop and After Effects (as Andi Hicks) 

Michael 'Spike' Lewis ....  photo shop and after effects  

John Luker ....  Photoshop and After Effects supervisor (as John C. Luker II) 

  

Camera and Electrical Department 

Philip Dixson ....  grip: New York City  

Dana Kilgore ....  gaffer  

Yada Levine ....  camera equipment  

Anthony G. Nakonechnyj ....  gaffer (as Tony Nako) 

Jay Smith ....  gaffer: New York City  

Ken Wheeland ....  best boy  

Terry Wimmer ....  gaffer  

  

Other crew 

Catheryn Clarke ....  production assistant  

Catheryn Clarke ....  transcriptor  

Bo Derek ....  additional consultant  

John J. Flynn ....  researcher  

Shea Flynn ....  production assistant  

Amy Glover ....  researcher  

Mick LaSalle ....  consultant  

Keith Lawrence ....  travel coordinator  

Michael 'Spike' Lewis ....  production assistant  

Michael 'Spike' Lewis ....  researcher  

Fabian Lopez ....  production assistant  

Fabian Lopez ....  researcher  

Virginia Madsen ....  additional consultant  

Leslie Miller ....  stage manager: New York City  

Terence Moriarty ....  production assistant  

Terence Moriarty ....  researcher  

Joseph M. Newman ....  additional consultant  

Shirley Newman ....  travel coordinator  

Marvin Paige ....  interview consultant  

Allen Quintos ....  production coordinator (as Allan Quinton) 

Theresa Russell ....  additional consultant  

Vincent Sherman ....  additional consultant  

Joo Young Song ....  production assistant  

Joo Young Song ....  researcher  

John Springer ....  additional consultant  

Thomas Tóth ....  additional consultant  

Mark Vieira ....  photo supplier  

Mark Vieira ....  researcher  

Marc Wanamaker ....  researcher (as Mark Wanamaker) 

Ruth Warrick ....  additional consultant  

Michael Yakaitis ....  researcher (as Michael Peter Yakaitis) 

Joseph M. Yranski ....  photo supplier  

Joseph M. Yranski ....  researcher (as Joe Yranski) 

Beth Zimmerman ....  production coordinator: Turner Classic Movies  

  

Thanks 

Cari Beauchamp ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Greg Bennett ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Steve Bennett ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Robert S. Birchard ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as Bob Birchard) 

Dan Birnie ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Robert Board ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as Bob Board) 

Alan Boyd ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Kevin Brownlow ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Rusty Casselton ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Robert Cushman ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

John Philip Dayton ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as John Dayton) 

Dennis Doros ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Marlene Eastman ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Amy Freed ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Leatrice Joy Gilbert ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as Leatrice Joy Gilbert Fountain) 

Amy Glover ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Gerald Hatfield ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Amy Heller ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Neill D. Hicks ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Heather Holmes ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Paul Hornby ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Deborah Hwang-Marriott ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as Deborah Marriott) 

Cindy Imlay ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Tom Karsch ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Samira Kayall ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Abigail Kende ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Emilie Kennedy ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Carol Landon ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Jeremy Laws ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

James Metropole ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Karen Morley ....  in memory of  

Frances Neely ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Greta Neely ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Olivia Neely ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Norm Palley ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Justin Pettigrew ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Anastasia Popovskaia ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Cecilia DeMille Presley ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Yvette Prindle ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Kristen Ramsey-Clyde ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as Kristen Ramsey Clyde) 

Michael Schlesinger ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Susan Shearer ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Randy Skretvedt ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Patrick Stanbury ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

David Stenn ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Charles Tabesh ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Michael Yakaitis ....  deep and sincere appreciation (as Michael P. Yakaitis) 

Brian Young ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Joseph M. Yranski ....  deep and sincere appreciation  

Scott Zimmerman ....  deep and sincere appreciation  



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2 out of 3 people found the following comment useful. 

Exceptionally interesting and a good introduction to those not acquainted with the "Pre-Code" era, 5 December
2006 



Author: p from Bradenton, Florida 



This film is a wonderful introduction to the women of the so-called "Pre-Code" movies--movies that were made
through about the middle of 1935. They were called "Pre-Code" in that they were made before the rigid
Production Code was enforced and the films abounded with sexuality, violence and topics of questionable taste for the
time. This documentary focuses not on this overall topic, but specifically on women of the films and their smoldering
sexuality. Because of this it is NOT indicative of the general topic of Pre-Code films but on a narrow aspect of the
movies.



The documentary is great because I was shocked how well-preserved some of these old leading ladies were and listening to
their stories about the era was extremely fascinating. I also liked all the old clips, though I felt that many times
important films were omitted from discussion or clips. For example, while the very tawdry nude swimming scene from
TARZAN AND HIS MATE was mentioned and shown several times (a very spicy scene even by today's standards), very little
mention was made of equally famous films with similar content, such as THE BARBARIAN and THE SIGN OF THE CROSS--the two
bathing scenes in these films are amazing for the early 1930s. Also, the film seemed to indicate that the Pre-Code era
was from the beginning of talkies until 1934, whereas there were MANY films in the silent era that featured copious
amounts of nudity or sexually liberated females. Both these quibbles, though, are very minor, as only to film nuts like
me will even notice or care! 



10 out of 12 people found the following comment useful :-

The more things change..., 19 June 2005



Author: b from United States



This is an excellent look at women in the pre-Code films. Narrated by Jane Fonda, it is extremely thought-provoking in
this age of wardrobe malfunctions, hue and cry over a sexy Paris Hilton commercial, and Nicole Sheridan dropping a towel
during a an ad on Super Bowl Sunday.



I found this documentary comforting in a way - 70+ years later, we're still going through all the same stuff we did back
then. The way things are going, we'll be back in 1933 before you know it.



Fonda narrates with a lot of expression as she takes the viewer through pre-code movies showing prostitutes, women
sleeping their way to the top, menage at trois, bisexuality, abortion, and unfaithful wives. If you're not familiar with
movies done before Breen and Hays, this will be a revelation. 



10 out of 13 people found the following comment useful :-

EXCELLENT AND ACCURATE, 2 March 2004



Author: Ffrom Newark



The people who are saying that this documentary was in any way exaggerated or inaccurate are themselves inaccurate. This
film is historically documented and completely true to the spirit of the pre-Code era. And lest anyone think the film
pandered to a modern sensibility, keep in mind: It had three ninety year old ladies in it, and was narrated by
66-year-old JANE FONDA, not Courtney Love. The fact is, the pre-Code was an extraordinary period for women's films --
something that becomes more not less evident after one has seen two hundred or three hundred pictures from this period.
And it was not extraordinary only for what it showed or dared but for the points the films made -- for those points that
were intrinsic to the MESSAGES of the films -- which go way beyond a flimsy gown or anything that could be edited into
tameness. If anything this documentary needed more time -- three or four hours -- to do justice to the range of pre-Code
women's films. Still working within the constraints, this was a splendid achievement and yet another laurel for Turner
Classic Movies. 



5 out of 7 people found the following comment useful :-

Good Clips, 21 May 2003



Author: b from New York City



Actually, very good clips, and the narrative makes a very good claim to proving its thesis: that the sexy Pre-Code
dramas and comedies actually represented a realistic depiction of the 20th century morality until Joseph Breen clamped
down, making the Production Code not just voluntary, but mandatory.



There is a good claim in that, but it makes its point by looking at the best of the Pre-Code works and the worst of the
movies made under the Code. Nor does it go into the reason that Hollywood made those sexy movies in the first place, and
stopped making them later: to sell tickets at the box office. Truth has never been the primary concern of the movie
industry; and while these clips demonstrate that Hollywood was interested in selling tickets to men who wanted to look
at naked women... well, the underwater swimming sequence from TARZAN AND HIS MATE shows Maureen O'Sullivan's stand-in
swimming around in the nude, but Weismuller is wearing a loincloth.



2 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :-

Mick LaSalle is great, 27 July 2009



Author: M from United States



I thought the Mick LaSalle character was great, he really brought out the Italian American in him. 



The thing that's good about this documentary is it really brings out that the current puritanism in America is a modern
phenomenon. Pre-code, nudity was OK and there weren't any self-appointed moral watch dogs complaining about the
contents. If you didn't want to watch something spicy, you didn't go see that movie.



Mick LaSalle is an excellent film reviewer who really knows his stuff (is that enough suck up?).



Cheers, Neil. 



2 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :-

Good Doc, 11 March 2008

Author: MEfrom Louisville, KY



Complicated Women (2003) 



*** 1/2 (out of 4) 



Wonderful look at the women who made Pre-Code films from 1929-34. The film shows clips from the most popular films of
the era and shines a spotlight on the women who brought the sexiness to these films. The film doesn't run too long,
which is a shame because this era of Hollywood is so interesting but the movie does a good job of introducing this era
to those who might not know too much about it. The discussion about the Catholic Church putting an end to this type of
film is an interesting one. Jane Fonda narrates. 



2 out of 5 people found the following comment useful :-

All the Shock of the Era, 26 May 2006



Author: MK from United States



Complicated Women is the documentary companion to Mick LaSalle's book about women in the pre-code era. The time from the
first talkies through to the enforcement of the Production Code is known as the pre-code era, a great time for movie
making. Subjects ranging from marital infidelity, prostitution, abortion, nudity, drug use, and other shocking subjects
littered films. The public either loved them or hated them, and thanks to groups like the Catholic Legion of Decency,
these subjects were censored. However, this documentary praises these films for their modernity and shows clips from
films like The Divorcée, Queen Christina, Downstairs, Torch Singer, Mary Stevens MD, The Smiling Lieutenant, Men
in White, Female, A Free Soul, Baby Face, Midnight Mary, The Story of Temple Drake, Red Dust, Faithless, Grand Hotel,
Gold Diggers of 1933, Ladies They Talk About, I'm No Angel, Tarzan and His Mate, and more.



The only problem with this documentary is that it skips around a lot. There are headers for each section, but they all
begin to blend together.



The film incorporates interviews with many great sources like Mick LaSalle, Molly Haskell, Mark Viera, and several
actresses of the era. 



Runtime:USA:55 min 





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References

Love (1927/I) 

The Great Divide (1929) 

Illicit (1931) 

Platinum Blonde (1931) 

Big City Blues (1932) 

Three on a Match (1932) 

Broadway Bad (1933) 

Disgraced! (1933) 

Little Women (1933) 

Havana Widows (1933) 

Belle of the Nineties (1934) 



Features

Flesh and the Devil (1926) 

A Woman of Affairs (1928) 

Anna Christie (1930) 

The Divorcee (1930) 

Inspiration (1931) 

Strangers May Kiss (1931) 

A Free Soul (1931) 

Big Business Girl (1931) 

The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) 

Night Nurse (1931) 

Blonde Crazy (1931) 

Safe in Hell (1931) 

Mata Hari (1931) 

Shanghai Express (1932) 

Arsène Lupin (1932) 

Grand Hotel (1932) 

So Big! (1932) 

Red-Headed Woman (1932) 

Downstairs (1932) 

Blonde Venus (1932) 

Faithless (1932) 

Red Dust (1932) 

The Sign of the Cross (1932) 

The Animal Kingdom (1932) 

Frisco Jenny (1932) 

She Done Him Wrong (1933) 

Ladies They Talk About (1933) 

Blondie Johnson (1933) 

Christopher Strong (1933) 

The Story of Temple Drake (1933) 

Ex-Lady (1933) 

Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933) 

Hold Your Man (1933) 

Midnight Mary (1933) 

Baby Face (1933) 

Mary Stevens, M.D. (1933) 

Dinner at Eight (1933) 

Torch Singer (1933) 

Footlight Parade (1933) 

I'm No Angel (1933) 

Blood Money (1933) 

The House on 56th Street (1933) 

Flying Down to Rio (1933) 

Queen Christina (1933) 

Design for Living (1933) 

Mandalay (1934) 

Fashions of 1934 (1934) 

Wonder Bar (1934) 

Men in White (1934) 

Riptide (1934) 

Tarzan and His Mate (1934) 

Murder at the Vanities (1934) 

Dr. Monica (1934) 

The Flame Within (1935) 

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